Month: February 2017

I would say:

from years of experience working in mental hospitals and treatment centers, and from years of watching this group, the one in denial here is you. I wish I could say this is a difference of opinion, but it isn’t.

You want to say, “If someone goes into an MLM, it’s their fault. It’s because there’s something wrong with them. The rest of us, the ones that aren’t damaged are safe. We’re okay. We can’t be sucked in to do things like that.”


And if you know me and know my posting, you know I don’t curse online. That’s how strong my sentiment is that this is just plain wrong.

We’re ALL susceptible. Semper Vigilis. Always vigilant. We can all be fooled at any point. Whatever your political opinion, you feel that either a lot of people were fooled by Bill Clinton, or a lot of people were fooled by George W. Bush. People get fooled. It’s part of the human condition and MLMs learn to watch that human condition and use it against us, the same way politicians do to manipulate us into voting for them.

I know you want to believe that only damaged people get sucked into MLMs, but that’s not true.

I went to an open meeting for QS (I won’t go into it here, but I’ll be referring to some of these companies in shorthand from now on, I figure people here know what QS is, it was and will be again AW). My then-girlfriend invited me. At that point I had (and still have) my own business. It was paying the bills and I was doing fine. I knew some of the presentation was off and I could point out a number of logic flaws in it, but toward the end, when people started talking about their success stories, I was tempted to sign up. Not because I was scared, wanted to be part of the group, or anything else. It was because they really made it seem like anyone could join and soon be making a lot of money if they worked at it. (And no, I did not join.)

And right there, you may have shown you missed a point

the one I talked about above that I thought you had caught. I’ve made a lot of friends on this board. I know many of the people here are quite intelligent. I wish a number of them lived in my area so we could get together for parties or to see a movie or to just chat.
I’ll pick on one, since I think he’ll be okay with it. I got to meet Paine once when he was in my area and we spent several hours at an ice cream parlor talking about MLMs, music the historical sites in the area, and much more. He has a great sense of humor, is quite intelligent, rather laid back, and an interesting person (hope you don’t mind that, Paine — and stop blushing!).

I’ve worked for years in residential treatment. I’ve learned how to size people up quickly. Paine is no idiot and I didn’t see any sign that he was a needy person — and, due to personal and professional history and experiences, that’s one thing I pick up on VERY QUICKLY.

People here accept responsibility for signing up with MLMs. They accept both how they were fooled and how they didn’t see what was going on.
I’ve seen that after watching and participating in this group since something like early 2014.

I have yet to see a common trait that enables MLMs to suck people in. MLMs don’t look for one thing. They have learned to be all things to all people, to emphasize to a potential recruit whatever it is that will appeal to them. Then, once the person is in, they’re fed doses of brainwashing until they think like all the other drones.

You’re looking for a “fatal flaw” (remember that from lit class, people?) that each person has. The truth is there isn’t one and for most people here it was not that they were damaged that enabled MLMs to take over their lives.

That is a critical and important misunderstanding you seem to have.

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